Big deal.. Colston dropped 2 HUGE passes.. one of which would have not only converted, but, put us in scoring position. He recovered, though, and made huge plays later in the game. If the WR gets his hands on the ball, and drops it, then, that's his bad. Or, if he clearly didn't run the route like he was supposed to, it's his fault. However, it's up to the QB to eliminate a WR from eligibility, if he clearly isn't on his route. That being said, Porter jumped the route, BEFORE Wayne was to the point that he had to break, and Manning should have seen it coming. Porter was in perfect position to make a play on the ball, and Manning took the gamble. Honestly, the Saints baited Manning the entire game.. and waited until the right time to take advantage. Film study, and preparation allowed Porter to make that beautiful play.I must have missed Reggie Wayne breaking for the ball. Oh, that's right, he didn't. Even earlier in the game, Garcon dropped an easy pass to convert a third down. Manning can't play QB and WR.
Comparing (my opinion of) the capabilities of the '07 Saints/Bears to the '09 Saints/Colts isn't a fair comparison. The Saints were so unstable that season, and you never knew what you were going to get. That was a rebuilding year for them. It's one of those seasons that frustrates you as a fan, because you KNOW that your team is so close, but, still lacks the depth/experience to make it happen.Trav4011 said:(After the Bears beat the Saints in the '07 playoffs
Honestly, I told my wife yesterday that I thought the Bears would win.. It's not that they're a better team, necessarily.. but, they definately played a better game today.
There, I fixed it for you..Y2K SE said:In the end, the better team won that game.
Yes, because there are never timing plays where the QB must throw the ball before the WR looks or breaks for the ball.However, it's up to the QB to eliminate a WR from eligibility, if he clearly isn't on his route
If Wayne breaks off the route strongly like he's supposed to, Porter never gets the ball because Wayne is in the way. At best for the Saints, its an incomplete pass.That being said, Porter jumped the route, BEFORE Wayne was to the point that he had to break, and Manning should have seen it coming.
I'm not contrasting the capabilities of the various teams; I'm demonstrating the hypocriticism of your continued insistence that everyone must agree that the Saints won because they were the best team and that if they don't agree with that statement, then they must be ignorant.Comparing (my opinion of) the capabilities of the '07 Saints/Bears to the '09 Saints/Colts isn't a fair comparison.
Exactly my point. I'm done with this thread; you just don't get it.There, I fixed it for you..
Meh.. you know me.. I've got to try to kill my flies with a sledge hammer.Trav you always go one step past what I can agree with you on.. LoL.
You go on and on about how it was a bad pass and decision by Manning.. and then praise Porter for an amazing play. For me, it can't be both.. Manning either threw a bad ball or Porter made an amazing play.
You've been so busy arguing your opinions that you've twice failed to recognize that I praised them for beating teams I, and many others, didn't think they should have beat.I get it, perfectly fine.. [...] The Saints are the champs, and, that's that.
I think that the Saints would've needed ~20 yards for FG range, right? So, it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference.I think if Wayne breaks like he's supposed to, it's still an INT. But..........Wayne would have at least had the opportunity to tackle Porter and not make it a TAINT (td after interception).
Well, it was a 74 yard INT return, so that means Porter caught it around their own 26.... Even if he gets another couple of yards, the Saints still have to get another 35+ to get into FG range. Then again, the way Hartley was kicking, like you said, it probably wouldn't have mattered. All woulda coulda at this point..I think that the Saints would've needed ~20 yards for FG range, right? So, it probably wouldn't have made much of a difference.
Oh, yes, that's right.Well, it was a 74 yard INT return, so that means Porter caught it around their own 26....
I don't think the Colts second-half defense could prevent it.Even if he gets another couple of yards, the Saints still have to get another 35+ to get into FG range.