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Future of SE 2.0

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Hey everyone,

I know Im new to this board but this is a question I just had to ask, is the SE dead now that the SE-R is coming? If so we have no real chance of seeing any more performance parts coming out for our se's. Man thats what I dont get about those darn honduhs with 127 horsepower, they have more parts and have no where near the performance of our SE's. I really wish tuners realized theres more to this world than stupid civics and integras. Sorry to be so angry, Im just ticked that our car is about to be overlooked despite the potential in performace that it has for the more "tuneable" SE-R. Does anyone agree with me? Long live the SE's. They are the shiznit!! :) P.S please Im just venting dont start flaming if I made anybody mad or if I sound like a moron.

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I agree with ya.....

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By no means will the SE aftermarket be dead after the SE-R comes out. The SR20DE engine has been around for too long and is too good to let it die. The new QR25 motor from the SER is not very tunable at all cuz of all the computer controls on the emissions and crap like that.

Also, from a suspension and bodykit standpoint, both cars are the same so if anything, the SE's will benefit from the introduction of the SE-R. Let me tell you something, I'd rather have an SE with a Turbo over an SE-R any day. Also, don't say that the SE-R will be good with a Turbo cuz noone has even started to do any R&D with that. The QR motor is a very big 4 cylinder and has a lot of drawbacks in terms of modding. Sport Compact Car even said that the Q series motor doesn't respond to mods very well.
im gonna disagree with you, the sr20 has everything it needs in terms of performance mods, and if not its in development. We all know the sr20 was built to with stand turbo and just now have we seen some good potential if your going all motor. Sure we dont have as much variety but we got the esstenials.

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*Josh*
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(Searching for a Honda EF or 240sx Coupe)
There's not really much left to be made for the SR20DE is there? I know the 98+ guys really need Jim Wolf to take care of the ECU, but for the most part we really don't need to many more parts developed IMO. While the Honda guys have TONS of parts availiable, the majority of their parts are crap. The SE-R communitiy is very lucky that the things we have to choose from are of the highest quality.

It may sound strange, but us SE-R folk aren't the only guys feeling a little down about becoming extinct. If you pay attention to any Honda board, you'll know the Honda guys are really down regarding the new Si. Basicly, it's ugly and its slow. If it had impressive performance then the ugliness would hurt less, but it doesn't have specs that come anywhere close to the new SE-R, Celica GTS, or SVT Focus. So that is now the future of their touted Sis, a slow ugly car. :(

At least we have a sucessor that will really be a fun as hell car, something that will broaden closed minds. The SR20DE is well respected by the other camps, I'm glad the new SE-R will continue that tradition.
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Yeah.....with the SR20 being out for 10 years now...there's not much left untouched with this motor. I agree that we could use some attention to the new version of the motor....hopefully an ECU isn't far off.

Some cars just get lucky with the aftermarket. Honda is obvious...but look at the following for Fox Chassis Mustangs! Those cars have an ungodly amount of aftermarket support. I guess we get upset because the sheer amount of bolt-on parts available for other cars isn't there for ours. Hopefully whatever comes out for the SE-R will retrofit to our cars. Anytime I get upset about the lack of aftermarket bolt-ons for our cars...I stop and remember that those bolt-ons help those cars reach the STOCK level of our cars. Once you think of it that way it doesn't seem that bad!

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2001 SE 5-spd. w/PP Granite

I washed my car yesterday...does that count as a modification?
Is the SR20DE going to be continued to be made -= like for other countries???

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Personally, I don't think Honda "got lucky" with aftermarket support. They got the support NOT because they are the more tunable car, but because they are the more popular car. Have you ever sat at a corner of a busy street and counted Civics and Integs vs. Sentras and 200SX's? I swear it's like 15 to 1. If you were an aftermarket company, who would you make parts for?

But either way, long live the SR20DE!

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Jae
'00 SE w/ stuff
Seeking SOHC VTEC once again...
I agree with SR20DE 2K. I live up in Northern VA and everywhere you look, you see an accord or civic or integra. They got more parts cuz more people bought them. I'm proud of my SE and like everyone else has said, their bolt-ons just get them to our stock performance.

As far as our engine goes, it has been out for a long time and just abouty everything has been done for it. But you would think that the aftermarket companys would take the parts that they have made for the older cars and redesign them to fit our cars. Thats all I have to say right now.

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Charles

2001 Sentra SE, P/P, 5spd, Inferno with HyperWhite headlights and fogs.

PR CAI on the way, looking into Stromung Exhaust
Well you have to look at it this way, Everyone is right that the SR20de has been out forever but our motor is slightly different for the past ones so all the parts already out there just have to be modified slightly to fit. I have talked to Hotshot and they said with slight modifcationm their headers will fit our motors, for all i know it could be modfication to the body. same with palce racing the intake that they sell for out cars is just a modified 200sx SE-R one.
Now onto the new SE-R. This is a new motor with no aftermarket what so ever. It will be many months before they come out with aftermarket parts for it. Would rather spend 15Gs on an SE and run mid 15s or 19Gs on an SE-R and run high 14s, when you could take that extra 4Gs you saved and invest in a turbo and run 13s and be able to say you have a turbo on a 4-door family sedan and run 13s. Much more respect is given to our cars when they run fast, The SE-R came out as a perforance specific car, our cars are multifunctional and do everything. My adivce stick with the SE after market will come, already many companies have things for our cars that are unknown, such as H&R they have a spring kit for out car i didn't even know that till i ordered my sportline kit. SEs are better then SE-R bottom line

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RadiumJohn:
By no means will the SE aftermarket be dead after the SE-R comes out. The SR20DE engine has been around for too long and is too good to let it die. The new QR25 motor from the SER is not very tunable at all cuz of all the computer controls on the emissions and crap like that.

Also, from a suspension and bodykit standpoint, both cars are the same so if anything, the SE's will benefit from the introduction of the SE-R. Let me tell you something, I'd rather have an SE with a Turbo over an SE-R any day. Also, don't say that the SE-R will be good with a Turbo cuz noone has even started to do any R&D with that. The QR motor is a very big 4 cylinder and has a lot of drawbacks in terms of modding. Sport Compact Car even said that the Q series motor doesn't respond to mods very well.
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I think you hit it right on the money!!!!!


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I'm not sure about you all, but I definitely didn't plan on my car being a drag car. More importantly, it's for a fun daily driver. The current mods that I have is enough to make me smile going to the grocery store.

The SR20DE has it's history, and it'll never just be wiped away by some new QR series engine. I'm hoping for the ECU, and maybe cams, and that's it. In four years after I have paid my SE off, I'll look into something that is going to start off 200+Hp's already. We'll all grow out of the car and see something nicer to your current tastes, does everyone agree kinda? :)

You all definitely enjoy the ride, you know I am. :)

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Marvin
-2000 Sentra SE w/Performance Package, Sunroof, 5 Spd, Avalanche
Current mods: Gas Cap Holder, Stromung Cat-Back Exhaust System, Place Racing Cold Air Intake
Future mods:Unorthodox Racing Pulleys, Window Tint
-Previous Owner 1995 Sentra GXE, w/mods, Auto, Maroon
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I was told at the Detroit Auto Show that they will keep a Sentra with the 2.0 in it. i do not know what they will call it yet, though. Never fear, 2 Liters will be around for a long time to come. I would like to get a new SE-R, but I will still keep my 93 SE-R for my project car.

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