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ok, well i seem to fall in several of these categories and i don't even do this intentionally. but i agree with them...

ladies are more than welcome to chime in with opinions...;)

MISTAKE #1: Being
Too Much Of A “Nice Guy”
Have you ever noticed that the really attractive women never seem to be attracted "nice" guys?
Of course you have.
Just like me, I'm sure you've had attractive female friends that always seemed to date "jerks"... but for some reason they were never romantically interested in YOU.
What's going on here?
It's actually very simple...
Women don't base their choices of men on how "nice" a guy is. They choose the men they do because they feel a powerful GUT LEVEL ATTRACTION for them.
And guess what?
Being nice doesn't make a woman FEEL that powerful ATTRACTION.
And being NICE doesn't make a woman CHOOSE you.
I realize that this doesn't make a lot of logical sense, and it's hard to ACCEPT... but GET OVER IT.
Until you accept this FACT and begin to act on it, you'll NEVER have the success with women that you want.

MISTAKE #2: Trying To
“Convince" Her To Like You
What do most guys do when they meet a woman that they REALLY like... but she's just not interested?
Right! They try to "convince" the woman to feel differently.
Well, I have news for you... YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE HOW A WOMAN "FEELS" WHEN IT COMES TO ATTRACTION!
Never, ever, EVER.
You cannot CONVINCE a woman to feel differently about you with "logic and reasoning".
Think about it.
If a woman doesn't "feel it" for you, how in the world do you expect to change that FEELING by being "reasonable" with her?
But we all do it.
When a woman just isn't interested, we beg, plead, chase, and do our best to change her mind.
Bad idea. One that will never work.

MISTAKE #3: Looking To Her
For Approval Or Permission
In our desire to please women (which we mistakenly think will make them like us), us guys are always doing things to get a woman's "approval" or "permission".
Another HORRIBLE idea.
Women are NEVER attracted to the types of men who kiss up to them... EVER.
Don't get me wrong here.
You don't have to treat women BADLY for them to like you.
But if you think that treating a woman well means "always getting her approval and permission for things", think again.
You will never succeed by looking for approval. Women actually get ANNOYED at men who seek their approval.

Doubt me? Just ask any attractive woman if Wussy guys who chase her around and want her approval annoy her...

MISTAKE #4: Trying To “Buy” Her Affection With Food And Gifts

How many times have you taken a woman out to a nice dinner, bought her gifts and flowers, and had her REJECT you for someone who didn't treat her even HALF as well as you did?

If you're like me, then you've had it happen a LOT.

Well guess what?

It's only NATURAL when this happens...

That's right, I said NATURAL.

When you do these things, you send a clear message:

"I don't think you'll like me for who I am, so I'm going to try to buy your attention and affection".

Your good intentions usually come across to women as over-compensation for insecurity, and weak attempts at manipulation. That's right, I said that women see this as MANIPULATION.

MISTAKE #5: Sharing
“How You Feel” Too Early In
The Relationship With Her

Another huge and unfortunate mistake that most men make with women is sharing how they "feel" too early on.

Attractive women are rare.

And they get a LOT of attention from men.

Most men don't realize this, but attractive women are being approached in one way or another ALL THE TIME by men.

An attractive woman is often approached several times a DAY by men who are interested. This translate into dozens of times per week, and often HUNDREDS of times per month.

And guess what?

Attractive women have usually dated a LOT of men.

That's right. They have EXPERIENCE.

They know what to expect.

And one thing that turns an attractive women off and sends her running away faster than just about anything is a guy who starts saying "You know, I really, REALLY like you" after one or two dates.

This signals to the woman that you're just like all the other guys who fall for her too fast... and can't control themselves.

Don't do it. Lean back. Relax.

There's a much better way...

MISTAKE #6: Not “Getting” How Attraction Works For Women

Women are VERY different from men when it comes to ATTRACTION.

You need to accept this fact, and deal with it.

When a man sees a beautiful, young, sexy woman, he INSTANTLY feels a sexual attraction.

But does the same apply for women?

Do women feel sexual attraction to men based mostly on looks? Or is something else going on?

Well, after studying this topic for over five full years now, I can tell you that women usually have their "attraction mechanisms" triggered by things OTHER than looks.

Have you ever noticed that you see a lot more average and unattractive men with beautiful women than the other way around?

Think about it.

Women are more attracted to certain qualities in men... and they're attracted to the way a man makes them FEEL than they are to looks alone.

If you know how to use your body language and communication correctly, you can make women feel the same kind of powerful sexual attraction to you that YOU feel when you see a hot, sexy young woman.

But it's not an accident. You have to LEARN how to do this.

And ANY guy can learn how...

MISTAKE #7: Thinking That It
Takes Money And Looks

One of the most common mistakes that guys make is giving up before they've even gotten started... because they think that attractive women are only interested in men who have looks and money... or guys who are a certain height... or guys who are a certain age.

And sure, there are some women who are only interested in these things.

But MOST women are far more interested in a man's personality than his wallet or his looks.

There are personality traits that attract women like a magnet...

And if you learn what they are and how to use them, YOU can be one of these guys.

YOU DO NOT have to "settle" for a woman just because you aren't rich, tall, or handsome.

Let me say this again: If you know how to use your body language and communication correctly, you can make women feel the same kind of powerful sexual attraction to you that YOU feel when you see a hot, sexy young woman.

MISTAKE #8: Giving Away
All Of Your Power To Women

Earlier I mentioned that it's a mistake to look to a woman for approval or permission.

Well, another similar tactic that a lot of guys use is GIVING AWAY THEIR POWER to women.

Said differently, guys try to get women to like them by doing whatever the woman wants.

Another bad idea...

Women are NEVER attracted to men that they can walk all over... Women aren't attracted to Wussies!

MISTAKE #9: Not Knowing
EXACTLY What To Do In Each
Type Of Situation With Women

Now I'm going to blow your mind...

A woman ALWAYS knows what you're thinking.

Women are approximately TEN TIMES better than men at reading body language. That's ten TIMES.

I know, it might be hard to believe. But for example, if you're out on a date with a woman, and you want to kiss her, she knows it.

And if you don't know exactly what to do and exactly HOW to kiss her, and you just sit there looking at her and getting nervous, she won't help!

And this goes for ALL aspects of women and dating...

Approaching a woman, getting her number, asking her out, kissing her, getting physical... everything.

If you don't know what to do in each situation, you will probably screw it up... and LOSE EVERYTHING.

And you KNOW it.

It is VITALLY important that you know EXACTLY how to go from one step to the next with a woman... from the first meeting, all the way to the bedroom.
 

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bigjerm[/i] [b] Have you ever noticed that the really attractive women never seem to be attracted "nice" guys?[/b][/quote]Heh...or "nice" girls said:
But MOST women are far more interested in a man's personality than his wallet or his looks.
I call
 

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97gxeFL said:
C*Z is gonna quote a post.
d4mn. How the he11 did you know that?


:D
 

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hey punks, i just decided to copy and paste the whole email :D. so if you don't like it, shoot me! j/k i would actually like to live a bit longer ;).

besides, no one told all you OT whores to read it :D:p. i was going for the full effect ;).
 

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97gxeFL said:
I am teh smartness :D
Well then, teh smartness, it'd be good to know that it's voilà, not wahla. :D

(er, it is if you were saying what I think you were saying, anyway :) )
 

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bigjerm
you've been rejected a lot haven't you.

Good guys always win in the end. Be nice, and be yourself, the right girl will come along and realize you are different.
 

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Paraskass said:
bigjerm
you've been rejected a lot haven't you.

Good guys always win in the end. Be nice, and be yourself, the right girl will come along and realize you are different.
When you think about it, expecting a young woman to desire the practical choice, a nice, supportive, devoted guy, would be kinda like asking us young adult males to drive a stock accord sedan. Ain't gonna happen, right now.

I figure as times changes, people change and hairstyles change, just as we grow out of our boy-racer phase, women grow out of their bad boy phase. Though right now they may not know which one will truly make them smile, after a little
they'll mature and figure out which one won't make them cry.
 

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Ha...funny thing is, i do all that crap to a certian extent. Except every woman i've dated has come to realize i have no money. They like me for who i am. Although the discussion of "josh your not finacially stable" i look at em and smile. They think i'm not, but in all truth, i really am, except for right now. I was until i blew up my Spec, and got a 300ZX, but i've very close. That was a discussion me and Anna had. Although we have basically broken up as of yesterday, she still wants me to come up there this weekend, and the next, and the next, and so forth. Why is that. Basically she said she wants to be my friend, and that whenever i come up there, she wants me t act as if we are still going out. So will one of the ladies on this board please tell me what the fcuk she's thinking?
 

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Ha...funny thing is, i do all that crap to a certian extent. Except every woman i've dated has come to realize i have no money. They like me for who i am. Although the discussion of "josh your not finacially stable" i look at em and smile. They think i'm not, but in all truth, i really am, except for right now. I was until i blew up my Spec, and got a 300ZX, but i've very close. That was a discussion me and Anna had. Although we have basically broken up as of yesterday, she still wants me to come up there this weekend, and the next, and the next, and so forth. Why is that. Basically she said she wants to be my friend, and that whenever i come up there, she wants me t act as if we are still going out. So will one of the ladies on this board please tell me what the fcuk she's thinking?
ummm i'll tell you one thing, she's retarded. why are you going to torture yourself like that? please don't tell me you're actually gonna go see her
 

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NeVaX said:
Ha...funny thing is, i do all that crap to a certian extent. Except every woman i've dated has come to realize i have no money. They like me for who i am. Although the discussion of "josh your not finacially stable" i look at em and smile. They think i'm not, but in all truth, i really am, except for right now. I was until i blew up my Spec, and got a 300ZX, but i've very close. That was a discussion me and Anna had. Although we have basically broken up as of yesterday, she still wants me to come up there this weekend, and the next, and the next, and so forth. Why is that. Basically she said she wants to be my friend, and that whenever i come up there, she wants me t act as if we are still going out. So will one of the ladies on this board please tell me what the fcuk she's thinking?
oh, a
f - o - c - k - f - r - i - e - n - d
she still loves you, just doesn't want to worry about anything.
 
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