View Full Version : Mid-Level Component Sets With Silk/Soft Dome Tweeters?
I am still searching for a 6.5" 2 way component set for my 200sx. Budget is around $400. I had been looking at the Focal 165V2's and K's, but I just can't get over the tweeter. It is waaaaay too bright and harsh for my liking. I'd like to take a look at the Dynaudio 240 mkII's or GT's, but they are just too expensive. I'd really like to find something at the Focal price point, but with a soft dome tweeter that isn't so bright.
What else can I look at that is somewhat subdued on the top end, but has the midrange detail and warmth of the Focal Kevlars?
Should I consider building a component set out of individual drivers? If so, do you have any tweeter recommendations?
soupbone 02-04-2004, 07:59 PM wehre do you guys get to hear these kinds of component? everywhere i know that sells audio only sells sony and rockford fosgate :(
specracer2 02-04-2004, 08:00 PM where are you located?
2001 SE #2 02-04-2004, 08:10 PM The CDTs are supposed to sound very laid back and more natural than the Focals, though they lose a bit of clarity and midbass by it. As for building your own set out of separates, email atomic-fusion@rogers.com and he can design a set for you, as well as design and build the crossovers to match the components perfectly. He's VERY knowledgable, if you want to see for yourself email him with some questions, or do a search for him on www.soundillusions.net
sentrabeast 02-04-2004, 08:17 PM I cant remember who it was, but someone in another thread mentioned Utopias as being pretty good mids, may want to check those out.
I am located in Denver, CO.
I had given some thought to the CDT's, but there is no possible way for me to listen to them before I buy. I really dunno if I am comfortable comitting to something like this without hearing them first.
I do like the Focal Mid a lot. I briefly listened to the 165W's, and it was wonderful. I don't think my budget will allow for a utopia mid, but the kevlar was very nice aswell.
I'll give that guy an email and see what he says.
Thanks for the help guys. If anyone has any other suggestions, please let me know!
specracer2 02-04-2004, 08:35 PM look at some boston acoustics , you will love them.
zertron 02-05-2004, 11:44 AM Check out Adire's Koda set. $349 from www.sound-foundations.us
info at www.adireaudio.com
Its reputation (from what I've read at caraudioforum.com and elsewhere):
absolutely the BEST 6.5 mid-bass you can buy, period.
The tweets are "polyamide with aluminum dusting" or something like that...not titanium by any means. I don't know if they're as "soft" as a silk-dome. They're 2", though, so I would assume they're not quite as bright.
I'm gonna get a set when i get the money.
-T
chillboy 02-05-2004, 11:54 AM Small tweeters have narrow dispersement of sound (high freq travel in straight lines). The larger tweeter like the Focals are better for off-axis imaging like putting them up in the pillars. If you build a set I would opt for an electronic x-over and biamp them. I missed the boat on an Ebay auction for some Morel 8" with a less than 3" mounting depth. Those with a larger tweeter in the factory pillar and, ideally a little more delay on them then the 8's and a 12 crossed around 50Hz and you could impress the best of home audiofiles IMO. At least take my advise on not getting too small a set of tweeter, unless you are planning some kick pods.
Edit if you biamp with an electronic xover you might want to look at home audio tweeters 8ohm with a 4 or even 2 ohm woofer to balance the sound. Same if you have someone knowledable to build passives for you.
PelayoSPECV 02-06-2004, 12:14 AM Originally posted by zertron
Check out Adire's Koda set. $349 from www.sound-foundations.us
info at www.adireaudio.com
Its reputation (from what I've read at caraudioforum.com and elsewhere):
absolutely the BEST 6.5 mid-bass you can buy, period.
The tweets are "polyamide with aluminum dusting" or something like that...not titanium by any means. I don't know if they're as "soft" as a silk-dome. They're 2", though, so I would assume they're not quite as bright.
I'm gonna get a set when i get the money.
-T
those and the new alpine 9835 is what im getting with my tax return
2001 SE #2 02-06-2004, 12:43 AM Originally posted by PelayoSPECV
those and the new alpine 9835 is what im getting with my tax return
read my thread and quit copying me!
:D
diwun67 02-06-2004, 01:02 AM Boston Acoustics come with silk soft dome tweeters.....I bought the Rally RC620's and I love them, very warm, natural highs. I can only imagine what the Pro's must sound like
PelayoSPECV 02-06-2004, 01:28 AM Originally posted by 2001 SE #2
read my thread and quit copying me!
:D
actually i did read your thread.
and i have talked to atomic b4. he wants to make me a set using either Vifa PL or seas lotus midbass, LPG tweeters and some custom xovers.
I rather have the kodas...
2001 SE #2 02-06-2004, 01:44 AM I've heard amazing things about the seas lotus mids, and the vifa pls for that matter. I still can't pick between them and the kodas, haha
It's a tough decision, and I'd probably be perfectly happy with either. I don't want to make a new set of spacers for the kodas though. If you do get the kodas make sure you post a review, and be very careful with the surround when you're screwing them in.
Monk_04SER 02-08-2004, 09:04 PM check out the polk audio db series. very underrated components. the tweeter is a silk/polymer composite.
b12sentra 02-10-2004, 12:11 AM If you like the Polk db series, Crutchfield is running a buy one, get one at half price sale on the 6.5 and 6.75 sizes components.
diwun67 02-10-2004, 12:17 AM Those Polk db components are sweet....
Well, I actually ended up going the DIY route. I got Vifa MG 7" mids and LPG soft dome tweeters. I will be bi-amping them using my Memphis belle and using my 7897's electronic crossovers. I am hoping that it will all work out well. For $175 total, I don't think I did too bad. :)
2001 SE #2 02-10-2004, 08:40 PM That should be a pretty nice sounding component set, probably comparable to the focal polyglass or jl xr at the least, and both of those would be $40 more plus shipping.
b12sentra 02-10-2004, 09:27 PM I actually stopped by a local high end store and saw the focals...I was a little set back by the $350 price tag per pair.
If you were to spend that much on "one" pair, would you rather have the focals or Koda speakers??
2001 SE #2 02-10-2004, 10:32 PM kodas
b12sentra 02-11-2004, 11:46 AM SE#2 you even have focal's, don't like 'em? whats your opinion now that you've had them in for a while?
evangelos K 02-11-2004, 03:03 PM Originally posted by 2001 SE #2
kodas
Hve you heard them? I am hessitant when it comes to all these people in audio forums recommenting Codas (or RE XXX or whatever) when maybe 1 out of 10 has owned them/heard them.
2001 SE #2 02-11-2004, 04:46 PM I like my focals, but they're not worth $350
They're excelent for the $210 you can get them for on ebay, but I'm looking for more now.
I used to be hesitant about buying online-only things based on reviews alone.....but then I got my A and Avionixx amps, and I'm not scared anymore.
There is a problem with the koda surround tearing pretty easily though. It just takes a little care, or a little glue if you do end up tearing them, but if you don't want to deal with it then you shouldn't get them.
No I haven't heard them, but every spec is better than the polyglass, including their frequency response. I've also heard some crazy things about their midbass, I plan on getting a set with my tax refund whenever it gets here.
The Koda's are kinda weird speakers. They were designed for off axis response, but I don't think that necessarily means they sound good. They have a very high xmax for a midbass speaker, but I don't think they have quite the level of refinement of many other midbasses (at the expense of reduced midbass output.)
People usually recommend the Koda if you want to go loud. Its sort of an SQL component set. If your going for a strictly SQ system, there are better choices (especially for the tweeter...which gets luke warm reviews from everyone.)
b12sentra 02-12-2004, 12:13 AM I'm only running straight off my head unit right now...since it's not even clean Mosfet power I am planning on amping up and re wiring the system before I do anything more with the speakers.
I am in no need what so ever for an award winning mega loud system...unless I want to be deaf it means absolutely nothing.
What I am looking for is clear, accurate, cost responsible power. Ideas?
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