Is this impossible to buy it like that? I dont see why the audio package REQUIRES ABS, which the brembos cannot have. I talked to a salesman, and he said that there isnt a sentra in the united states with both the audio fanatic and brembo package. I want both!!!

The Audio Fanatic package IS 6 in-dash cd changer right?

Originally posted by Arvin
The Audio Fanatic package IS 6 in-dash cd changer right?

Not sure check www.nissanmotors.com and personally I would skip that fosgate system. I had it in my '02 and it sucked big time. You can buy a much better system for how much they charge you for that fosgate crap. And in the '02 the fanatic package only had a single disc player not a changer.

You might be able to get a better system, but you get more stuff with the AF package. How bad do you want the split folding rear seat and immobilizer system? The split seat is a nice thing to have, but if you plan to add a car alarm or remote start... I'd skip it. The immobilizer makes those 2 things more complicated, I believe. If you plan to add a better stereo in any case, I'd definitely skip it. I'm happier with the AF package than I was the stereo in my truck (nothing), but it's not as nice as the Mach 460 in my mustang IMO.

Oh, and the nissan site says that the Brembos aren't available with the ABS/Side Impact Airbag option... nothing mentioned about the AF package.

EDIT: Looked again at the 'Design Your Nissan' thing and it looks like you have to get the Sunroof and the ABS package to get the AF package. It's like a big puzzle! If that's the case, then the only option you can have with the brembo's is the sunroof.

NO, it says the "Spec V brake package" is NOT available with the Audio Fanatic package.

just skip the audio fanatic...and get a better system...

AF isnt even decent? I dont think i'll be doing aftermarket anytime soon

Originally posted by Arvin
AF isnt even decent? I dont think i'll be doing aftermarket anytime soon

Its decent but honestly it doesnt sound that much better then the premium system the spec V already comes with. I dont think its worth the money.

the trunk sub-woofer makes a difference if you ask me....so does the 6-disc in dash player. those two are nothing like whats in the premium.

personally, for someone who's not into the audio thing but likes a little bump now and then, the AF package was right up my alley because i could care less about adding all those amps, woofers, and boxes to my car with aftermarket stuff. this comes pre-installed, covered under warranty, and fits fine. ie - in dash 6-disc player and trunk woofer. to be honest, i have no idea what the option cost was....mine was on the lot as a left over and had teh ABS, Sunroof, and AF package in it already. i didn't pay sticker price so i got a decent deal on the whole car...

Originally posted by OkToBeR
the trunk sub-woofer makes a difference if you ask me....so does the 6-disc in dash player. those two are nothing like whats in the premium.

personally, for someone who's not into the audio thing but likes a little bump now and then, the AF package was right up my alley because i could care less about adding all those amps, woofers, and boxes to my car with aftermarket stuff. this comes pre-installed, covered under warranty, and fits fine. ie - in dash 6-disc player and trunk woofer. to be honest, i have no idea what the option cost was....mine was on the lot as a left over and had teh ABS, Sunroof, and AF package in it already. i didn't pay sticker price so i got a decent deal on the whole car...

your 2002 came with 6 in-dash changer? how come SpecVinSC said, "And in the '02 the fanatic package only had a single disc player not a changer."?

Originally posted by Arvin
your 2002 came with 6 in-dash changer? how come SpecVinSC said, "And in the '02 the fanatic package only had a single disc player not a changer."?

Mine didnt have a changer I guarantee you on that. I think the changer might be extra in addition to the package price.

Originally posted by OkToBeR
the trunk sub-woofer makes a difference if you ask me....so does the 6-disc in dash player. those two are nothing like whats in the premium.

personally, for someone who's not into the audio thing but likes a little bump now and then, the AF package was right up my alley because i could care less about adding all those amps, woofers, and boxes to my car with aftermarket stuff. this comes pre-installed, covered under warranty, and fits fine. ie - in dash 6-disc player and trunk woofer. to be honest, i have no idea what the option cost was....mine was on the lot as a left over and had teh ABS, Sunroof, and AF package in it already. i didn't pay sticker price so i got a decent deal on the whole car...

Yeah, you are right about everything cominf pre-installed, but you do not mind the outrageous price they charge you for this: http://www.b15sentra.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76207

Yeap, those are the speakers in the AF package.

How does this have so many replies other than see the Nissan website that says its impossible? :)

Buy the Spec with the Brembo's and take the $500 you save on the RF system, throw in a few more $$ and buy a decent aftermarket headunit, a small amp, and a prefab 8" or 10" sub if the regular factory system isnt enough for you. It will be easier to upgrade the sound system than the brake system down the road.

Strange... here in Canada, there is only 2 package option (Sport and Brembo) and the Brembo include the R-F system. Only thing the Brembo don't have vs SP is ABS ans side air bag...

When it all comes down to it, I think we basically have the same options... but instead of making it simple and listing it as 2 or 3 different packages, they list them individually with requirements. Maybe there is some benefit for a car to have 6 option packages available instead of 2 in the States?

so...uh......recomend me one? ppl with the brembos, whadaya think? ppl with the a/f pack, what do you think?

ABS and side airbags will be more usable on the street than Brembo brakes.

Brembos or the A/F package? Please... the A/F package is whack, if you like the junk that comes out of it you'd be just as happy with the junk that comes out of the standard Spec-V system.

I have the R/F system in my car, and I'd trade it in a second for the Brembo kit. Unfortunatly there was no Brembo option on the '03. As I said before it will be easier to upgrade the sound system down the road than the brakes.

F'kin A, i get ppl telling me AF is nice, AF sucks, brembos suck, brembos rule....

ok....why does the AF pack suck? sucky highs, mids lows? not crisp base? muddy vocals?

Okay, the Brembos are pretty cut and dry, they are bad *** brakes. Will you need 'em? Well not if you aren't going to be autocrossing. Do they look cool? Yea damn right. Useful? 90% of the people, no.

The AF package, I've got an idea, go listen to it. Its pretty simple. It sucks because you can buy the replacement speakers for .87 cents for the fronts. Its a crappy system, marginally better than the stock system. The bass is sort of like a W0 in a sealed box with leaks the size of texas, the sound is there, but calling it bass is laughable.

Why buy either one if you don't care about them much?

Originally posted by Arvin
F'kin A, i get ppl telling me AF is nice, AF sucks, brembos suck, brembos rule....

ok....why does the AF pack suck? sucky highs, mids lows? not crisp base? muddy vocals? Like was said, you should go listen to it. Take a small selection of CDs that represent the kind of music you listen too and try them out.

To me, the decision isn't between the radio and the Brembo brakes. It's between the ABS/Side airbags and the Brembo's. ABS and side airbags are going to be a lot more useful on the street than the Brembo's, and they'll get you a discount on your insurance.

Originally posted by DevlynSyde
Okay, the Brembos are pretty cut and dry, they are bad *** brakes. Will you need 'em? Well not if you aren't going to be autocrossing. Do they look cool? Yea damn right. Useful? 90% of the people, no.

The AF package, I've got an idea, go listen to it. Its pretty simple. It sucks because you can buy the replacement speakers for .87 cents for the fronts. Its a crappy system, marginally better than the stock system. The bass is sort of like a W0 in a sealed box with leaks the size of texas, the sound is there, but calling it bass is laughable.

Why buy either one if you don't care about them much?


87 cents??? jeeze louise! where at?

Originally posted by Y2K SE
To me, the decision isn't between the radio and the Brembo brakes. It's between the ABS/Side airbags and the Brembo's. ABS and side airbags are going to be a lot more useful on the street than the Brembo's, and they'll get you a discount on your insurance.

EXACTLY

Get the ABS/Side Airbags, and the RF system. If you're not an audio freak, it's well worth it. I've had my Spec for 6 months now and the ABS has come in handy on more than one occasion. If you were going to buy the Brembo kit anyways, take the money you had saved for the Brembo package, and upgrade your brakes to somethin that is almost, if not as good as Brembo's and you're all set. Stopping power without lockin them up, plus a decent sounding system. ;)

Originally posted by Arvin
87 cents??? jeeze louise! where at?

http://www.b15sentra.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76207

F'kin A, i get ppl telling me AF is nice, AF sucks, brembos suck, brembos rule....

ok....why does the AF pack suck? sucky highs, mids lows? not crisp base? muddy vocals?
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Like was said, you should go listen to it. Take a small selection of CDs that represent the kind of music you listen too and try them out.

To me, the decision isn't between the radio and the Brembo brakes. It's between the ABS/Side airbags and the Brembo's. ABS and side airbags are going to be a lot more useful on the street than the Brembo's, and they'll get you a discount on your insurance.


I also have to agree with exterraman and Y2K se the ABS are definitely worth it (our OEM tires stink), beside the peace of mind (at least) that the side air bags offer. The Brembos, well.... yeah they look freaking hot and would mostly be appreciated at the track not during everyday driving. Although the RF really sucks at least its included in a better package. Just update the head unit, which, in this set up, is the main reason why the sound is so crappy. Take it from a professional DJ, the sound is....not all that, but the ABS/side air bags may come handy.

Buy the Brembos and I'll sell you my complete AF package at dealer cost, no questions asked!

The AF is OK, but when I can afford something better, bub-bye.

Your stopping distances will be shorter with abs. Skip the brembos.
Unless you are a pro, you will be locking the wheels on hard stops.
ABS>>>BREMBOS

If you really need brembos then buy aftermarket ones on an ABS equipped car.

Skip the AF package too, unless it has gotten better since 02.

Originally posted by Spoolin MSP
Your stopping distances will be shorter with abs. Skip the brembos.
Unless you are a pro, you will be locking the wheels on hard stops.
ABS>>>BREMBOS

If you really need brembos then buy aftermarket ones on an ABS equipped car.

Skip the AF package too, unless it has gotten better since 02.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall being able to get a sunroof, ect. w/o the RF package.

Originally posted by djr1specV
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall being able to get a sunroof, ect. w/o the RF package.

the only option you CAN get with brembos is the sunroof

Originally posted by Salem_MA_SpecV
Buy the Brembos and I'll sell you my complete AF package at dealer cost, no questions asked!

The AF is OK, but when I can afford something better, bub-bye.


by dealer cost, do you mean $1000? i called nissan and asked them how much the package would be if sold separately, and they quoted me 1000 dollars

Originally posted by Arvin
AF isnt even decent? I dont think i'll be doing aftermarket anytime soon

Its decent but honestly its not worth the $1000 upgrade I cant believe the dealer is asking that much for it those speakers are literally a few bucks each. Take that $1000 and buy a nice head unit and 4 speakers you even have some left over and have a nicer sounding system than the AF crap.

Is this impossible to buy it like that? I dont see why the audio package REQUIRES ABS, which the brembos cannot have. I talked to a salesman, and he said that there isnt a sentra in the united states with both the audio fanatic and brembo package. I want both!!!

theres a 2004 silver se-r spec V at the nissan i work at with both brembo & the audio package so i dont know what dealer you talked to, must be pulling you leg

Originally posted by taleus1
theres a 2004 silver se-r spec V at the nissan i work at with both brembo & the audio package so i dont know what dealer you talked to, must be pulling you leg According to Nissan USA's configurator, that car does not and can not exist. Perhaps someone added the audio package at the dealer. I'd like to see pictures and a window sticker.

Originally posted by SpecVinSC
Not sure check www.nissanmotors.com and personally I would skip that fosgate system. I had it in my '02 and it sucked big time. You can buy a much better system for how much they charge you for that fosgate crap. And in the '02 the fanatic package only had a single disc player not a changer.

I have an '02 with the AF package, and yes, it did come with a 6 disc changer.

you guys like your AF?

dude, if you really care about audio that much ( like me ) then the only real way you can go is aftermarket, hands down. theres no way that even the best stock system can touch aftermarket. get the options you want, and seriously consider aftermarket if you care that much.

are there any single din headunits that are in-dash 6 cd?

honestly, not that im aware of, but there plenty of HU's that are compatable with external CD-changers, go pioneer, and youll have no problem, IMO. (still a rockford guy )

well the car sold the other day, ill see if i can get a copy of the sticker and scan it

ps. im in canada

To me, the Brembos aren't worth it if you can't get the ABS and side impact air bags. There are other brake kits that work with the ABS too. The AF package worked for me because it sounded better than the basic system and you get the split folding rear seat and upgraded alarm. Plus I wanted the sunroof too. If you plan on wanting a 'make-your-ears-bleed' stereo or installing remote start/high end alarm, I'd skip it. It all depends on what you plan on doing with the car. The stock brakes work for everyday driving and the added safety features of ABS/airbags is nice to have. Not to mention the discount you should get on insurance when you have ABS. You could always test drive a couple and see if you could even tell a difference with and without the brembos. Or just drive up to Canada and buy one there. :)

the RF system really sucks.. I wouldnt even pay $50 for it! The front speakers are alright, but the rears and the sub are terrible. Tomorrow I'm getting JL VR's in the front and rear running off a JL amp and 2- 10" Eclipse subs in the trunk.. Should be slightly better.