Elemental B-Stock Blowout

I'm sure everyone doesn't suscribe to Elemental Design's e-mail list, but since we're all family here I thought I'd share their newest sale.

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10A.22's - 240 Shipped!
12A.22's - 250 Shipped!
15A.22's - 275 Shipped!

BStock items have slightly blemished paint on the baskets and that is all. From the front you'd never know mounted in a enclosure. Items are new in box and come with our 3 year warranty as well.

Orders MUST be made over the telephone at 319-665-6350. When calling be sure to request the BStock drivers in these 2 models to recieve this price! No rainchecks, limited supply, when these are gone they are gone!
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Except for a similar blow out at RE, there isn't much to compare with the Ed 12A for $250 shipped. Mine was more than that on the preorder and I've already slightly scuffed the finish by putting the dang thing in the box :)

please give the "sentra god" a pass to the classifieds section :D

First, Sentra God is the automated title given by the site, not a custom one I've done myself.

Second, this isn't something I'm selling it is a company sale that people that actually browse the Audio forum for anything other than to post whore the usual bull***** might be interested in.

Third, where the hell were you when everyone posts in here a seperate thread referencing their thread in the Classified section so that people coming here for Audio concerns would be aware of it.

Fourth, have a pass back to the other forums where people aren't interested in helping each other out. This was simply to let people know since it is not advertised other than the e-mail and since a growing number of people on this forum have Elemental Design subwoofers and this is a good deal I thought I'd try to help out.

Did I mention this isn't a classified ad yet? Yea, move on.

haha, Devlyn crackin the whip!

Nice sale though, too bad it isn't for the kx drivers (looking for a decent HT sub)

just saw the email myself. sweet deal. might have to give my car one for valentine's day ;)

I'm also looking for a deal on the kx for the same reason. But I've got a bit more of time to wait since I'm just finishing up the car stereo so some time can be had before moving to HT. I don't hate what I have currently (cheapy box system) except for the bass. So I'm considering a kx + a small amp in addition. *shrug*

jnaks: much props for giving love to the car :P

yeah, I plan on going with the Adire kit 281s for my mains, and then a 12kx in a big ported box on one of those partsexpress 250 watt plate amps for the sub. It'll be a while until I actually do it, but should sound pretty good when it's done.

Since it is my thread that apparently belongs in classifieds :rolleyes: I guess I can hijack it. I'm lazy, I'll have to look up the kit later. I don't want something fanatical, just something within a small budget that gives good surround... *shrug* I guess maybe that will change when I decided HDTV is worthwhile and can afford to spend bank on a tv other than my plain jane 32".

here ya go
http://www.acoustic-visions.com/~acoustic/products/speakers/complete_kits/kit_281.shtml
(just the 2 towers, not the center channel)

Supposedly they can't be beat for under $1500-$2000 (just for the towers, not including the center and surrounds), the only downside is you have to build them yourself. But I think it would be a fun project

..since were on the subject of home theater....(I know...it's bad...I have to stop spending...)

I just picked up an onkyo 601. I have to say the digital surround is freaking awesome. I don’t have the best speakers (except my velodyne sub :D) either but it still kicks ***.

That DIY kit looks intriguing. Does anyone have an others they would care to share??

so you like the onkyo?
My receiver is only rated down to 8ohm and those Adires are 4. So I was thinking of hooking them up to my current receiver and if it can take it then I'll leave it. If it blows or won't play them then I could get a 4ohm stable receiver. I was looking at Onkyo and they look pretty nice. Harman/Kardon receivers seem like they're pretty nice too.

Yea, I've always heard Onkyo was the hotness. Those towers look phat but thats a little big for what I'd like to see. I dunno, I'll take down the specs and see if I can't work an entertainment center into the speakers so that the towers work as a support. Dunno, might be something to take up some time & do a lil' work up at the old man's house to match the coffee table.

Atleast its all Elemental owners whoring my thread :) I'd get into the home audio forums but they all go light years over my head.

haha I hear that, I signed up on hometheaterforum a while ago to look around. I couldn't understand a word, I guess it's because there are just SO many HT manufacturers that it takes a while to learn all the names. Who knows, many of those guys have tens of thousands of dollars in their theaters and have forgotten more than I'll ever know, lol.

I have the Onkyo TX-DS787 (the 3rd from the top Onkyo's model 2 years ago), and my rear surround speakers are 4 0hms (Infinity reference car component set, heh), and the Onkyo does just fine.

Onkyo is awesome, probably the best "non-exotic" home electronics brand.

Originally posted by 2001 SE #2
so you like the onkyo?
My receiver is only rated down to 8ohm and those Adires are 4. So I was thinking of hooking them up to my current receiver and if it can take it then I'll leave it. If it blows or won't play them then I could get a 4ohm stable receiver. I was looking at Onkyo and they look pretty nice. Harman/Kardon receivers seem like they're pretty nice too.

Yea. I looked at both. In fact I have an older HK unit, which I really liked but I thought I would try something different.

The amount of tuning and the different surround modes is simply astounding. I dont even have it completely tuned up yet either. They recommend getting a sound analyzer from radio shack to tune it properly, I'll probably do that this weekend.

I was watching "Open Range" with my fiance last night. One of the first scenes opens with a thunderstorm. Needless to say I was taken back, it sounded like it was raining in my house...I mean really raining....not to mention the thunder shook the walls! It simply amazes me how far home audio has gone. Just more thing to spend money on I guess. :)

Originally posted by mumra
I was watching "Open Range" with my fiance last night. One of the first scenes opens with a thunderstorm. Needless to say I was taken back, it sounded like it was raining in my house...I mean really raining....not to mention the thunder shook the walls! It simply amazes me how far home audio has gone. Just more thing to spend money on I guess. :)

Its things like that, that make me wonder if its worthwhile for me to spend lots of money on towers instead of small surrounds and a good sub + a good receiver. I am just looking for somewhat realistic sound & good reproduction of bass frequencies which is definately lacking in the system I have atm.

no kidding. got a friend here...man, he has about $15k into his HT system. He spent more on wires than most people for their whole setup! the names he throws out...sheesh, i can reconcile with about 3 of them...

Originally posted by mumra
Yea. I looked at both. In fact I have an older HK unit, which I really liked but I thought I would try something different.

The amount of tuning and the different surround modes is simply astounding. I dont even have it completely tuned up yet either. They recommend getting a sound analyzer from radio shack to tune it properly, I'll probably do that this weekend.

I was watching "Open Range" with my fiance last night. One of the first scenes opens with a thunderstorm. Needless to say I was taken back, it sounded like it was raining in my house...I mean really raining....not to mention the thunder shook the walls! It simply amazes me how far home audio has gone. Just more thing to spend money on I guess. :)

Heh, I was watching "One Hour Photo" w/ my wife and a friend, so during the movie there were police sirens... my wife and my friend were "Hey, I wonder whats going on, sounds like something bad happened" Me: "err, it is the movie"; Wife: "No, it is coming from outside"; Me: rewinds the movie; wife and friend: " ".

I have a pretty goot setup. The Onkyo in the previous post, Infinity Interlude fronts and center, Infinity reference componets surrounds AND center surround (yeap, 6.1, the onkyo is 6.1 (6x100) + pre-amp for a 7nth channel for 7.1 (rear center left+rear center right) :D ) Need to change my Polk sub, soon.

Originally posted by DevlynSyde
Its things like that, that make me wonder if its worthwhile for me to spend lots of money on towers instead of small surrounds and a good sub + a good receiver. I am just looking for somewhat realistic sound & good reproduction of bass frequencies which is definately lacking in the system I have atm.

Well I only have two small front polk audio speakers (I think i38 something??) and a nicer JBL center (maybe a $200 speaker. I got it from a friend so I really dont know what he paid for it retail) and I've been fairly happy with it.

I think the sub and the center is key as far as speakers are concerned. I figured it kind of mirrors my car setup. The center and fronts give me plenty of mids and highs..throw that sub in and it completes the sound band. It may not be a 15k setup but then again we start getting into the law of diminishing returns. A 3k setup gets you 90% quality and it takes an additional 10K or more to get you the other 10%. It may not be dead on accurate but I think you guys understand what I'm talking about. Dont get me wrong, I would like an expensive system but I only have a mad dog budget. :D

Originally posted by mumra
Well I only have two small front polk audio speakers (I think i38 something??) and a nicer JBL center (maybe a $200 speaker. I got it from a friend so I really dont know what he paid for it retail) and I've been fairly happy with it.

I think the sub and the center is key as far as speakers are concerned. I figured it kind of mirrors my car setup. The center and fronts give me plenty of mids and highs..throw that sub in and it completes the sound band. It may not be a 15k setup but then again we start getting into the law of diminishing returns. A 3k setup gets you 90% quality and it takes an additional 10K or more to get you the other 10%. It may not be dead on accurate but I think you guys understand what I'm talking about. Dont get me wrong, I would like an expensive system but I only have a mad dog budget. :D

IMO, rule # 1 in HA: Match the fronts w/ the center, go w/ the same maker using fronts/center from the same model line.

So I'm going to hijack again, its my thread afterall...

I've been listening to my system more and more (the sub is sitting out of the car atm for this tuning testing what the hell ever) and I'm unhappy. No, nay, I'm pissed. It sounds incredible at like, say a volume of 23 / 35 off the USX... well, okay not incredible but you get my drift, the quality of sound is definately there. But its a little lacking in volume, put it up to 23 / 35 and there is some definate distortion which = me panicing and turning it down to 18. Now the 23 level is about what I would listen to it normally, so its not too horridly... horrid. But sometimes I really want to crank it, be it I'm pissed or what the hell ever, and I can't. So I'm like kicking myself about the XRs or the amp. Is it possible the USB4065 bridged sucks so bad that it just ... sucks? I really ahve to figure out why the RF amp has so much engine whine because it was much louder at much lower volumes plus it had a bass / treble adjustment on the amp so that I can tune down the bass somewhat without affecting the subwoofer.

Anyway... back to home theatre... I really don't plan on spending anywhere near 3k. Atleast at the current time... current time being I continue to make the money I am... maybe uhh, 8 promotions down the line? :)

Originally posted by evangelos K
Heh, I was watching "One Hour Photo" w/ my wife and a friend, so during the movie there were police sirens... my wife and my friend were "Hey, I wonder whats going on, sounds like something bad happened" Me: "err, it is the movie"; Wife: "No, it is coming from outside"; Me: rewinds the movie; wife and friend: " ".

I have a pretty goot setup. The Onkyo in the previous post, Infinity Interlude fronts and center, Infinity reference componets surrounds AND center surround (yeap, 6.1, the onkyo is 6.1 (6x100) + pre-amp for a 7nth channel for 7.1 (rear center left+rear center right) :D ) Need to change my Polk sub, soon.


So its a seperate amp for the sub, right?

Yea, the sub is active. 99% of HA recievers only have the pre-out for the sub.

Originally posted by evangelos K
IMO, rule # 1 in HA: Match the fronts w/ the center, go w/ the same maker using fronts/center from the same model line.

Yea. You might be right but I got a good deal on the center and the front channel output level is fully adjustable. I might change it eventaully, but I need to buy a house first.

Originally posted by mumra
I might change it eventaully, but I need to buy a house first. I know EXACTLY what you mean...all this nice stuff I want...all this down payment I have to come up with. :rolleyes:

House blah blah blah, houses suck, don't get one. Especially if you aren't married or whatever. I've got a house, its huge... well, huge for me, its like 2300 sq ft... and what do I have to show for it? A lot of time cleaning and a lot of money and time spent looking into furniture to fill said big house. :)

Now back to my thread hijack about my stereo. Jeezh.

yeah, but if you're like placenta...you need a house so that you can use the home equity credit to buy all your ish :P heheh


EDIT: *waits calmly to see if placenta sees this :D

Originally posted by evangelos K
Heh, I was watching "One Hour Photo" w/ my wife and a friend, so during the movie there were police sirens... my wife and my friend were "Hey, I wonder whats going on, sounds like something bad happened" Me: "err, it is the movie"; Wife: "No, it is coming from outside"; Me: rewinds the movie; wife and friend: " ".

I have a pretty goot setup. The Onkyo in the previous post, Infinity Interlude fronts and center, Infinity reference componets surrounds AND center surround (yeap, 6.1, the onkyo is 6.1 (6x100) + pre-amp for a 7nth channel for 7.1 (rear center left+rear center right) :D ) Need to change my Polk sub, soon.

That is a nice setup. Infinity does make some nice HT stuff.

Originally posted by DevlynSyde
So I'm going to hijack again, its my thread afterall...

I've been listening to my system more and more (the sub is sitting out of the car atm for this tuning testing what the hell ever) and I'm unhappy. No, nay, I'm pissed. It sounds incredible at like, say a volume of 23 / 35 off the USX... well, okay not incredible but you get my drift, the quality of sound is definately there. But its a little lacking in volume, put it up to 23 / 35 and there is some definate distortion which = me panicing and turning it down to 18. Now the 23 level is about what I would listen to it normally, so its not too horridly... horrid. But sometimes I really want to crank it, be it I'm pissed or what the hell ever, and I can't. So I'm like kicking myself about the XRs or the amp. Is it possible the USB4065 bridged sucks so bad that it just ... sucks? I really ahve to figure out why the RF amp has so much engine whine because it was much louder at much lower volumes plus it had a bass / treble adjustment on the amp so that I can tune down the bass somewhat without affecting the subwoofer.

Anyway... back to home theatre... I really don't plan on spending anywhere near 3k. Atleast at the current time... current time being I continue to make the money I am... maybe uhh, 8 promotions down the line? :)

I'll hijack back to CA...hehe...

I'm kind of supirsed your not getting clean output with that amp bridged. I bridged my 4085 and it's more than enough power. It can really get loud. I mean its to the point when I think its the speaker are going to come out through the doors. Its enough to actually move your pant legs from the amount of air moving down by my legs. I'm surprised your 4065 isn’t as close....

The power doesn't seem to be the problem.. I mean its supposedly 165x2 right... but yet my Punch 100 is rated 50x2 and the amps back then by RF were VERY underated, I used it to run two Punch 10's and it to me seems louder than my 800.2 and 12A. I don't know, maybe I'm lost in some kind of voodoo land where everything from my last system seems better since it was so long ago or else I had lower standards then so what seemed great then wouldn't be now.

Either way, long story short. My RF amp had the XRs significantly louder in the vocals at much lower volume. I've got to figure out the engine whine... the ground doesn't seem to be a bad location but maybe if it isn't iced over tomorrow afternoon I'll find another ground and try the RF amp again.

Originally posted by jnaks
yeah, but if you're like placenta...you need a house so that you can use the home equity credit to buy all your ish :P heheh


EDIT: *waits calmly to see if placenta sees this :D

>>ROFL<<

This was only surpassed in hilarity by Average Joe and the 'Average' guys being pummeled by the new guys in dodge ball.

I'm not sure how to spell hilarity, but I think you get my drift :)

Devlyn, where do you have the XRs highpassed?

Like 85ish.

hm, I don't know what the problem could be unless the amp is just that bad

the twilight zone answer.

your problem is you are bridging an amp. mixing up the channels, not keeping them dedicated. that is your drop in quality. a straight 150x2 @ 4 ohm amp would be a completely different story.

my HT thoughts.. I have a Pioneer 6.1 reciever, nothign special to me, kinda crappy. All Bose speakers. (front towers, center, rears), and a JBL 12" HT sub. The Bose are the worst speakers I've ever heard. The cubes might be good and i've heard them, but their full size speakers totally suck. I have to go to 80% volume just to get them sounding good. and they still suck. The JBL sub is killer tho. Wasted a lot of money on those Bose towers.. Lesson learned.. i cant afford new HT speakers for a while..

Yea, everyone always says Bose sucks. I know I sat in a demo room of theirs and I was impressed with the suckiness *shrug*